[Ffmpeg-cvslog] Re: ffmpeg-cvslog Digest, Vol 20, Issue 21

[Oded Shimon]

On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 05:17:50PM +0100, Guillaume Poirier wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> (yes, I'm feeding the troll)
> 
> Rich Felker wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 10:51:17PM +0100, Steve Lhomme wrote:
> > 
> >>>From: Nico Sabbi <nicola_sabbi at fastwebnet.it>
> >>>indeed: in every single mmedia program I've seen so far
> >>>the demuxer for matroska is by far the largest and most
> >>>full of special cases to handle separately
> >>
> >>Oh boy. Not again...
> >>
> >>Let me see, Matroska handles more formats than any other format,
> > 
> > 
> > Blatently FALSE, it handles the fewest. Only the few that are
> > explicitly supported. Unless you count the nasty DShow-in-MKV
> > abomination. OTOH NUT supports every format _without_ special casing.
> > But even crappy containers support more than MKV.
> 
> But NUT is still vaporware: the spec is so ultra-wonderfully good that
> the very ppl who wrote it do not seem to be able to come to the point
> to have a working version of a muxer/demuxer that supports all the
> things it claims to support (last time I checked, nutmerge only
> supports MPEG4-ASP video, MP3, and vorbis).

For lack of demuxers in nutmerge, not for lack of ability. My lavf-libnut 
patch works beautifully with the very few formats I've tested with. You're 
welcome to test it out on more stuff...

> Once NUT a working implementation of NUT is available, maybe it would
> be meaningful to compare it to existing containers.
> 
> Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against NUT in general. I just
> don't like when ppl claim smth I can't verify.

You can test index-less seeking in NUT (please do! I could use more
testers :), use 'mplayer -noidx' on a NUT file (with mplayer compiled 
with libnut...)

- ods15