[FFmpeg-cvslog] random thoughts about refactoring

Diego Biurrun diego
Mon Jan 11 08:47:50 CET 2010


On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 07:54:46AM +0530, Jai Menon wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 10:45:16PM +0100, Diego Biurrun wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 10:23:34PM +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > > On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 02:48:00PM -0500, compn wrote:
> > > > [17:56] <Dark_Shikari> DylanZA was one of our successes last year
> > > > [17:56] <Dark_Shikari> he picked x264 over ffmpeg
> > > > [17:56] <DonDiego> hmm
> > > > [17:57] <DonDiego> qual tasks were started after the first year
> > > > [17:57] <DylanZA> most reasonable students will pick a couple of projects anyway
> > > > [17:57] <DonDiego> to weed out incompetent students
> > > > [17:57] <Dark_Shikari> DonDiego: IMO there are two requirements
> > > > [17:57] <Dark_Shikari> 1) competent/self-motivated
> > > > [17:57] <Dark_Shikari> 2) involved
> > > > [17:57] <DylanZA> but if one is too difficult then they choose another. but the poor students might just stick to one project and try their luck
> > > > [17:57] <Dark_Shikari> unless you have both, you will have a failure
> > > > [17:58] <DylanZA> Dark_Shikari: yuo also need luck
> > > 
> > > > [17:58] <Dark_Shikari> this is why I'm biased against indian/chinese students, they do not tend to be very involved
> > > 
> > > if iam not mistaken our mxf muxer was written by a chinese student together
> > > with his mentor baptiste
> > 
> > Kartikey Mahendra Bhatt and Xiaohui Sun were complete failures, then
> > there's a bunch of incompetent ones that failed during qualification.
> 
> I strongly disagree with calling anyone attempting a qualification task as
> incompetent.

So the mere fact that person X applies for job Y ensures that person is
qualified to actually do the job?  You can't be serious...

And you are claiming that *all* students who attempted one of the
qualification tasks were competent enough?  You can't be serious...

> > > also jai is indian if iam not mistaken and he wrote the alac stuff
> > > jai failed on jpeg2k but kamil who i think was from poland failed on that
> > > before.
> > 
> > Jai worked well one year and milked SoC for the money the next year..
> 
> *sigh*
> I'm sorry you feel this way, really. But I'm not going to add
> anything. Because I tend to apply certain variants of Godwin's law
> when doing anything related to opensource, and If someone is already
> biased against "indian/chinese" students, there is nothing I can say
> that will make you see differently.

I judge people by their actions, not their words, so yes, there is nothing
you can say.  There is a lot you can do, however.  You said you promised
you would continue working on jpeg2k.  We shall see.

I also wonder what you were expecting.  What sort of impression did you
expect this year's SoC performance to give outside observers?

Diego



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