[FFmpeg-devel] Audio Video Sync issue with dvr-ms files

Jonathon Elwood jaelwood
Sat May 12 15:15:33 CEST 2007


On 5/12/07, Michael Niedermayer <michaelni at gmx.at> wrote:
> Hi
>
> On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 11:26:00PM -0400, Jonathon Elwood wrote:
> > On 5/11/07, Michael Niedermayer <michaelni at gmx.at> wrote:
> > > Hi
> >  [...]
> >
> > > ive tried these files and i cannot reproduce any freezing frames with
> > > svn head ffplay with them, also their AV sync is not worse with ffplay
> > > then any other random mpeg2 video
> > >
> > > can someone confirm that there is any problem at all with these files?
> > You are correct, I just tried it with ffplay and it played perfectly.
> > I'm embarrassed that I didn't try ffplay earlier (I thought of trying
> > it with MPlayer, but not ffplay).  Anyway, I think this helps narrow
> > down the problem because the problem must be somewhere in the encoding
> > process.  Please try it again with ffmpeg and you should see the
> > problem.  I tried it with both command lines below and I see the
> > problem with both encoders.
> >
> > ffmpeg -benchmark -y -i "ABC_SD.dvr-ms" -vcodec mpeg4 -qscale 4 -vtag
> > XVID -acodec mp3 -ac 2 -ab 128000 -f avi "ABC_SD.avi"
> >
> > ffmpeg -y -benchmark -i "ABC_SD.dvr-ms" -threads 2 -vcodec h264 -b
> > 384000 -bufsize 384 -coder 0 -level 13 -acodec aac "ABC_SD.mp4"
>
> -dts_delta_threshold 1
>
> though this is more a workaround than a proper solution, the problem is
> likely that the first frames have no timestamps
> maybe theres some initial timestamp hidden somewhere in asf?
> if not iam wondering how wmp can play it? or does wmp discard the first
> frame(s) ?
>
The ?dts_delta_threshold 1 option kind of works?  The video isn't
frozen for 8 seconds, but the AV isn't in sync.
I tried playing the samples in wmp and I don't see wmp discarding any
frames.  Actually, when I play the file in wmp or ffplay it looks
exactly the same.  Since they look the same, it doesn't look like
either wmp or ffplay throws away the first frames (unless they both
are throwing away the same frames...).
I've attached two debug files that are interesting.  The first, is
ABC_HD.txt.  This shows the timestamps from a show that ffmpeg can
convert just fine.  Notice the difference from the first audio
timestamp to the first video timestamp is 660.  Then the second file
is the ABC_SD.txt file.  This is the debug from the ABC_SD.dvr-ms
file.  The difference here between the first audio timestamp and the
first video timestamp is 707.  Not a big difference?  I wouldn't
expect this difference to cause the first frame to be stuck for 8
seconds on the ABC_SD file, but everything to convert just fine with
the ABC_HD file (if you want to see the ABC_HD file let me know and
I'll upload it).
Anyway, I can keep looking, but I don't think there are any other
timestamps in the file.  Since wmp and ffplay can both play the file
just fine without the beginning timestamps, my guess is no other
timestamps exist because they aren't needed just to play the file.
However, since they appear to be needed for encoding, what would be
the proper thing to do with the timestamps?  I tried setting the first
video packet to a timestamp of zero, but that didn't work.  All the
packet fragments we get before the first timestamp is all one segment.
 Because of this, I don't think there is any way to interpolate the
timestamps before we get to the real timestamps.
Since the video appears to start in the middle of a segment, would it
be proper to "throw away" the video packet fragments until we get to
the first segment marker?  Of course, this means that we are throwing
away video packets that ffplay can use just fine, but I don't know
what else to do.  Any guidance?  As you can tell, I don't know what to
do?
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