[FFmpeg-devel] [flamefest-start] A little something on MMX/SSE intrinsics

Michael Niedermayer michaelni
Wed Feb 27 23:30:17 CET 2008


On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:04:14AM +0200, ?smail D?nmez wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:33 PM, M?ns Rullg?rd <mans at mansr.com> wrote:
> > Michael Niedermayer <michaelni at gmx.at> writes:
> >
> >  > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 03:29:56PM -0500, Alexander Strange wrote:
> >
> > >> I don't think anyone can get Altivec asm to work better than
> >  >> intrinsics on more than one CPU - PPC is really, really
> >  >> scheduling-sensitive, especially the G5 and Cell.
> >  >
> >  > Until i see benchmarks id guess gcc+intrinsics will be slower than
> >  > unsheduled naively written asm()
> >
> >  That depends on the CPU.  Some CPUs are quite particular about
> >  instruction scheduling.
> >
> >
> >  >> I guess you can always try, though, but don't do anything to
> >  >> discourage people who know altivec from adding more. There's still a
> >  >> lot missing from H.264.
> >  >
> >  > Code is either well written or should be rejected.
> >  > Intrinsics != well written.
> >
> >  That's where you're wrong.  Code using intrinsics can be well-written.
> >  The problem is not the code, but the compiler.
> 
> Intrinsics can also be analyzed easily by the compiler so they get
> optimized easily where as its not possible for plain asm.

Thats like giving a painting from Leonardo da Vinci to a wild boar so it can
correct the fine details.

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