[FFmpeg-devel] FOMS 2009 FFmpeg outbrief
Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
Mon Jan 26 17:51:24 CET 2009
On Monday, 26 January 2009 at 17:26, Robert Swain wrote:
> 2009/1/26 M?ns Rullg?rd <mans at mansr.com>:
> > "Ronald S. Bultje" <rsbultje at gmail.com> writes:
> >> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:52 AM, M?ns Rullg?rd <mans at mansr.com> wrote:
> >>> "Ronald S. Bultje" <rsbultje at gmail.com> writes:
> >>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Diego Biurrun <diego at biurrun.de> wrote:
> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 03:06:51PM +0100, Diego Biurrun wrote:
> >>>>>> What is that method? A quick search on Google revealed nothing.
> >>>>> Can anybody shine a light on this?
> >>>> It is a blind way of releasing weekly or monthly snapshots of the
> >>>> current trunk with essentially no guaranteed QA&co. The idea is to get
> >>>> it out so people use it.
> >>> We have a public svn repository, and we put daily snapshots on the web
> >>> server. Isn't that enough?
> >> It addresses the complaint that there's no releases.
> > So going from daily snapshots to weekly would make these people shut
> > up?
> This is silly and not productive.
> >> However, I honestly don't think making releases will change the
> >> complaining about ffmpeg at all. It would be so good if they would
> >> interact in and contribute to this discussion.
> > Given that most of the complaints are invalid, e.g. the API hasn't
> > changed nearly as often as they say, there really isn't much we can
> > do. If people want to make up false claims about FFmpeg, and then
> > complain about them, they'll keep doing that no matter what we do.
> The apathetic approach won't encourage progress. I strongly recommend
> documenting the API changes and how to transition between them,
> coupled with svn revisions of the version bumps as suggested by
> Stefano earlier in the thread. This gives some evidence to argue
> against the claims rather than us saying that it's invalid and them
> complaining that it's unstable. Eventually this knowledgebase will be
> popularised if we keep pushing it and the fud will stop.
I strongly agree. There's still a lot of misconception originating from
over three years ago being repeated around. I try to correct it whenever
I come across it being mentioned, but I've been told that it'd be better
if "the developers" cleared it up prominently on the homepage.
Regular releases, even if they don't get more testing than SVN HEAD,
along with clearly documented API changes will surely calm many
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