[FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Default to using libraries when enabled

David Conrad lessen42
Mon Jun 22 02:05:14 CEST 2009

On Jun 15, 2009, at 5:00 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 02:47:05AM +0300, Ivan Kalvachev wrote:
>> On 6/12/09, David Conrad <lessen42 at gmail.com> wrote:
> [...]
>> The point is, if bug can't be reproduced, it doesn't exist.
> indeed :)
>>> encoder on purpose, nor anyone who would want to use it over
>>> libvorbis. Plus, the only other native encoder for which there is  
>>> also
>>> a competing --enable-lib is mpeg4.
>> Ones again. I thought it is not FFmpeg policy to babysit and spoon- 
>> feed users.
>> If they have no clue what are they doing, then shouldn't be doing it.
>> Or to quote a quote - it's like "the old UNIX philosophy of giving  
>> people rope,
>> and letting them hang themselves with it if they want to".
> true, but there are 2 things here
> 1. giving the user power to do anything she chooses to do
> 2. being plain inconvenient
> UNIX or not, IMHO
> * The user should ultimately be in charge of what is done
> * There should be no artificial limits or omission of usefull and
>  easy to implement things
> * the user interface should allow fast working
> * the user interface should be intuitive (vi, emacs, gdb, ... are  
> great
>  examples of what fails this point)
> * there should be documentation that allows users to quickly find  
> relevant
>  information (gdb fails this too)
> iam not sure where in this list a default setting would fit ...
> of course disabling a encoder at compile time is a different matter  
> from
> just not selecting it by default and letting the user change that  
> default ...
> our vorbis encoder should be compiled and available by default,  
> selecting
> another encoder by default at runtime if a better one is available  
> surely
> is not a bad idea

So, I should revert my disabling of the vorbis encoder. How about  
moving only the libvorbis declaration above native encoders, as in the  
attached? (or moving the native vorbis encoder below all others?) And  
would adding an av_log info message to vorbis_enc.c saying that the  
native vorbis encoder is poor quality (and recommending libvorbis) be  

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