[FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Dynamic plugins loading

Reimar Döffinger Reimar.Doeffinger
Sat Nov 6 10:47:56 CET 2010

On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 11:18:54AM +0200, Felipe Contreras wrote:
> FFmpeg's lack of dynamic plugin loading prevents it from getting into
> the Fedora distribution. Period.

> So we come again to the same: you don't care about Fedora. Fedora has
> a philosophy, and that's that.
> Basically what you are saying is that Fedora needs to change their
> philosophy in order to conform to FFmpeg.

Well, I think we are still trying to figure out the philosophy,
sometimes it is claimed to be "no patents" then it seems to be more
like "no patents unless those we for some reason considered safe" or
possibly "let's better not look, we might find a patent issue" and
now according to you it's not related to patents but it's just
that "dynamic plugin loading" is an absolute requirement.
I actually suspect that to be code for "accept that patch without
annoying me with discussion or else!".
Sorry, but a strongly held belief is not a suitable substitute for
a proper technical discussion, and so far I can't see this has even
reached the point of the issue being clearly defined, and certainly
the question which part needs to improve, FFmpeg or the package management
e.g. in the case of Debian is even further from being clear.

> >> >> *If* patent encumbered codecs could be installed as plugins, then the
> >> >> situation might change.
> >> >
> >> > you should talk to the people from fedora and find out what their point of
> >> > view is on these things and not argue here that they _might_ something
> >>
> >> There is no other reason why a distribution would not be shipping
> >> FFmpeg. I can tell you this is the reason in MeeGo.

libvpx does not allow installing patent-encumbered codecs as plugins,
so it will not be in MeeGo either?
Or are you so blinded by a specific solution that you can no longer
see the actual problem?

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