[FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Dynamic plugins loading

Jason Garrett-Glaser darkshikari
Sun Nov 14 19:53:26 CET 2010

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Anssi Hannula <anssi.hannula at iki.fi> wrote:
> On 14.11.2010 18:28, compn wrote:
>> On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 15:43:36 +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>>> On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 09:01:50AM +0200, Anssi Hannula wrote:
>>>> On 14.11.2010 05:23, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 04:34:56AM +0200, Anssi Hannula wrote:
>>>>>> On 13.11.2010 02:52, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 01:05:50AM +0200, Anssi Hannula wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 13.11.2010 00:26, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 10:48:59PM +0200, Anssi Hannula wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 02.11.2010 15:09, Diego Biurrun wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 02:23:56PM +0200, Felipe Contreras wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally I think it's a shame that FFmpeg is not shipped in such
>>>>>>>>>>>> important distributions just because of this reason.
>>>>>>>>>>> How many people here have even heard of meego and how many use Fedora
>>>>>>>>>>> (on their desktops)? ?Nowadays FFmpeg is available in all mainstream
>>>>>>>>>>> distributions, it's just the fringe ones that are missing, see
>>>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.multimedia.cx/index.php?title=FFmpeg_distribution_status
>>>>>>>>>>> BTW, if you have information to contribute to that package, let me know.
>>>>>>>>>> Ok, here goes:
>>>>>>>>>> == Mandriva ==
>>>>>>>>>> The packages in 2010.1 and later have the aac decoder and encoder
>>>>>>>>>> disabled. The packages in 2010.0 and older are uncrippled.
>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know why they disabled them?
>>>>>>>> Because faad is not allowed in Mandriva, AAC decoding is presumed as
>>>>>>>> unallowed.
>>>>>>> do you have some link to related discussion or a changelog for their ffmpeg
>>>>>>> package?
>>>>>> Here's the commit that disabled aac, but there is not much info there:
>>>>>> http://svn.mandriva.com/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/packages?view=revision&revision=548077
>>>>>> Here's a mailing list post:
>>>>>> http://lists.mandriva.com/cooker/2010-05/msg00374.php
>>>>>> When I asked why he didn't disable everything else as well, he said that
>>>>>> someone should tell him what is allowed and what is disallowed.
>>>>> someone should show him that patent about XOR or that one about clicking
>>>>> buttons
>>>> Well, obviously he doesn't want to enable anything that hasn't been
>>>> allowed in Mandriva, unless he is told otherwise.
>>> hmm, do you also have a link handy to discussions that lead to faa* removial?
>>> thats interresting because if its not patents but copyright issues which is
>>> actually more likely with faad/faac then this would not apply to ffmpeg and
>>> wouldnt be a reason to disable aac support in ffmpeg
> It is indeed for patent issues

So then why do they include all the other ffmpeg decoders?  AAC is
practically a non-issue; it's one of the cheapest multimedia formats
in the world to license, with the *cap* being a mere $30k, if I recall
correctly.  Surely *all* of the others would be more of a worry?

This is stupid.

Dark Shikari

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