[FFmpeg-devel] [FFmpeg-devel-irc] IRC log for 2010-09-30

Michael Niedermayer michaelni
Fri Oct 1 15:32:22 CEST 2010

On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 01:00:00AM +0100, irc at mansr.com wrote:

> [21:57:15] <kierank> mru isn't grumpy, he's just a troll
> [21:58:25] <CIA-63> ffmpeg: michael * r25278 /trunk/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
> [21:58:25] <CIA-63> ffmpeg: av_assert() system.
> [21:58:25] <CIA-63> ffmpeg: With this the developer can now choose if he wants an assert always enabled or at which
> [21:58:25] <CIA-63> ffmpeg: compile time assert level. This can thus replace the #define NDEBUG hacks
> [21:59:24] <mru> I tried to do that years ago

i dont remember you doing anything like this so i would suspect you did not

> [21:59:27] <mru> michael rejected it

as you AFAIK did not, i could not have rejected it
anyway, this is really becoming a problem now slowly, you cannot every day
attack me with lies, insults or trolling behind my back on irc and still be a
member of the project, this is not at all a threat from me as leader
But rather iam seeing these daily comments from you be that IRC or the ML
and they just do not represent reality and this is harming the project and
team as a whole. Not to mention the time wasted in replying to correct wrong
So i think that if you have such huge disagreements with every thing that is
done (or not done) then may be you should consider to fork and lead this fork
the way you believe is best.
Or if you dont want, then i would like to politely ask you to stop these
hollow attacks and trolling and return to normal technical discussions.
Either way, if you or anyone else knows of a patch that i rejected that they
feel should not have been rejected, please send an reply to the thread with
your opinion and why you think ive made a mistake.
We are all quite reasonable people when it comes to technical things and
iam sure we can find a consensus about most changes. But i cant do anything
if iam unaware of who disagrees with what about which change.

> [22:53:19] <CIA-63> ffmpeg: michael * r25279 /trunk/libavutil/assert.h: typo
> [23:21:54] <mru> does that mean he added a typo?
> [23:44:10] <mru> am I the only one who thinks michael should follow the same rules as everybody else?
> [23:44:41] <Dark_Shikari> he's the BDFL, he apparently makes the rules
> [23:45:06] <mru> he also makes special rules for himself
> [23:45:46] <spaam> special people need special rules..
> [23:45:59] <mru> frankly, I think it's time he was removed from this "leader" position
> [23:46:31] <ohsix> MUTINY!
> [23:46:37] <mru> call it what you want
> [23:46:45] <spaam> mru: so who will be the leader?  you?
> [23:46:53] <mru> why do we need a leader?

Would i step back as leader then you as root would become de facto leader.
Iam fairly certain this does not represent what the developers of ffmpeg want.
Nor would it be in the interrest of the project as a whole or its users.
Especially considering that root just recently argued toward their position
being "for life" and "just following orders from the project leaders". That
was right after root did what they felt like doing ignoring the project


Michael     GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB

When you are offended at any man's fault, turn to yourself and study your
own failings. Then you will forget your anger. -- Epictetus
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