[FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] New FFmpeg maintainership

Michael Niedermayer michaelni
Mon Jan 24 06:04:57 CET 2011

On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 09:14:31PM +0100, Diego Biurrun wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 06:12:08PM +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:02:51PM -0500, Ronald S. Bultje wrote:
> > > Hi Stefano,
> > > 
> > > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Stefano Sabatini
> > > <stefano.sabatini-lala at poste.it> wrote:
> > > > On date Wednesday 2011-01-19 01:58:53 +0100, Diego Biurrun encoded:
> > > >> The discontent reached the point where a fork was being contemplated
> > > >> and then planned, but it turned out that the momentum had soared way
> > > >> past critical mass and turned into a tidal wave of revolution. ?The
> > > >> focus moved from forking to avoiding a fork if possible.
> > > >
> > > > But unfortunately it never passed from considering to ask to the
> > > > person/s which were considered the cause of the "problem" to change
> > > > for the last time, or to discuss this publically, giving a chance to
> > > > these persons to defend themselves, and eventually pose an ultimatum
> > > > and act in the case they failed.
> > > 
> > > I've read this statement by various people in a variety of ways now. I
> > > want to make something very clear: this is not true. I won't spill all
> > > the details, but suffice to say that we felt that we tried enough and
> > > that another approach was needed to advance.
> > 
> > Ive heared the "I won't spill all the details" in various forms too.
> > No offense intended but are the details unstable in presence of public scrutiny?
> No, but I see little point (or even legitimacy) in disclosing the
> details of private communication with you.  Exposing all of it to
> public scrutiny is likely to degenerate into mud slinging.

Discussions about the project are not private discussions.
Private discussions arent about the project.

So what is this here about?
A "private" discussion between me, diego and ronald?
there was just one namely a phone conference between diego, me, ronald and ben
Let me break the silence and list what i remember afer months (surely not

We talked about whitespaces after keywords, i think i said i dont like to
burden contributors with that and i think either ronald or ben where somewhat

Someone said I should not correct false statements as i cant correct everything
on the net. I strongly disagreed to leave false statements standing.

Everyone told me that my tone was not nice on the mailinglist and i should
be more polite, i didnt know what exactly was meant and asked for an example
which noone could provide.

I think people suggested i call mans or write him an email, i wrote him several
emails without reply I didnt call him, he didnt call me either

Iam sure we talked about more but thats all i can remember. Its a pitty this
was not transscribed.

This is 1. not private and 2. not mud slinging but dead boring.

Also if i agreed to something in the hours of phone talks and forgot, a
simple reminder would have been good, and similarly me taking notes and not
loosing them would have helped too.

Also above phone conference was the only time i spoke with ben and ronald in my
life if iam not mistaken. So where are these amends that where tried and failed

Michael     GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB

The misfortune of the wise is better than the prosperity of the fool.
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