[FFmpeg-devel] Donations and what happens with them

Michael Niedermayer michaelni
Sun Jan 30 01:46:19 CET 2011

On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 12:40:33AM +0100, Herv? W. wrote:
> On 30/01/2011, Michael Niedermayer <michaelni at gmx.at> wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 11:45:11PM +0100, Herv? W. wrote:
> >> On 29 January 2011 19:29, Michael Niedermayer <michaelni at gmx.at> wrote:
> >> > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 06:36:00PM +0100, Herv? W. wrote:
> >> >> On 29 January 2011 17:43, Michael Niedermayer <michaelni at gmx.at> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> > Also file maintainers can commit to videolan and mans can then
> >> >> > review,change
> >> >> > and pull as he sees fit. If you are lazy _this_ really is the way to
> >> >> > go :)
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't think a stable repo on videolan and a more-stable repo on
> >> >> ffmpeg is wise. I think either 1 repo, or 2 repos that are exact
> >> >> mirrors of eachother would be better.
> >> >
> >> > nah, you misunderstood, iam speaking of specific formating and
> >> > "ohh my eyes a bleeding" requirements not stability.
> >> >
> >> > broken code is NOT welcome in the videolan repo.
> >> > but if someone has an issue with the existing (quite strict) whitespace
> >> > formating rules, but the code is otherwise fine, its welcome in videolan
> >> > also just because some code has mplayer ancestry does not exclude it
> >> > from
> >> > consideration nor if it comes from anywhere else. For me the actual code
> >> > matters not how its formatted or where its from.
> >> > And i will pull all imrpovments mans does so its not that his tree would
> >> > have any better formated code, just less code.
> >>
> >> So basically, you'd like it to remain the way it is now.
> >
> > Dont put words in my mouth
> >
> > Iam chatting with ben about a compromis solution, but he has no time today.
> More private communication?

Well, ive asked on the ML with whom to talk about a compromise, only ben
NOONE said discuss it on the ML and do a vote afterwards

And ive tried to talk with about half of the people on the signature list before
but that got nowhere.
Its kinda tricky to negotiate a compromis with a group that lacks a leader

> isn't that how the split happened in the
> first place?

It happened because people in charge abused their positions
had it been done in public they could have pulled that too or they could have

> Are you sure you wouldn't want to discuss that with 1 or
> 2 more people (not me, I'm nobody), perhaps Reimar if he has a little
> time?

I would expect that ben will talk with all relevant parties of both sides
collect oppinions and then draft something and ask if everyone agrees or
wants further changes until a consensus is reached amongth all interrested

This seems the most effective way to find a compromise to me.
iam not sure how that could be done in public, its not a simple A vs B please
put a cross there thing. We tried such a vote and the result was that while
most want me to be leader there are enough who dont want me to be to have
pulled this coup.


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