[FFmpeg-devel] [ANOUNCEMENT] ffmpeg.org

Jason Garrett-Glaser jason
Sun Mar 13 22:51:31 CET 2011

As it seems this new mailing list is moderated and I can't post to it,
I'm forwarding this to the main mailing list with the original post
below for context.


On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Jason Garrett-Glaser <jason at x264.com> wrote:
>> We do this as we believe that the takeover of ffmpeg.org two months ago
>> was entirely illegitimate and unacceptable, it lacked democratic majority,
> This is an outright lie, as demonstrated earlier, repeatedly.
> As I'm not interested in working on a project run by a dictator who
> lies, I hereby quit the project. ?Please revoke my commit access; I
> will be working on other projects instead.
> I am not going to be subscribing to your new mailing list. ?If you
> have decided to change your mind and stop lying, and you want me back,
> please contact me directly.
> Thanks,
> Jason

On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 6:51 AM, Michael Niedermayer <michaelni at gmx.at> wrote:
> Hi everyone
> I would have preferred to tell this to everyone in person or on the phone
> but that would not work out as everyone would know after the 4th phone call.
> And sending this on a public ML simply is a bad idea, maybe if we all agree
> I could forward this later to ffmpeg-dev.
> I am of course open to talk to everybody personally, e.g. by phone, now
> And if you want to discuss this privately amongth the developers we have setup
> a empty mailinglist. (https://avcodec.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-private)
> We choose not to mass subscribe everyone as that would be rude and spam
> so you have to manually subscribe.
> The nameservers for ffmpeg.org have been switched and we will switch www over
> to the new server very soon.
> We do this as we believe that the takeover of ffmpeg.org two months ago
> was entirely illegitimate and unacceptable, it lacked democratic majority,
> support by the trademark and domain owner as well as the main developers.
> As this happened mostly under the hood many FFmpeg users did not notice
> the change and are downloading FFmpeg with the perception it is the same
> project as it was the previous ten years without noticing the repository
> and commit access was changed. There is no problem with the fork's existence
> in itself, but it must choose a different domain and a different name.
> No change has been done or is planned to any repository leadership
> videolan is also still open for all past,present and future ffmpeg developers
> to join on equal terms.
> Discussion is still open and we should all try to resolve the conflict.
> Please submit constructive suggestions on how to improve the current and
> past conditions.
> I think FFmpeg is important to all of us.
> This mail was sent to you because you are/were ffmpeg/mplayer developer using
> this address and so you may be interested.
> --
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