[FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Remove the ffserver program and the ffm muxer/demuxer

[James Almer]

On 11/28/2016 1:52 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 01:07:31PM -0300, James Almer wrote:
>> On 11/28/2016 12:59 PM, Nicolas George wrote:
>>> L'octidi 8 frimaire, an CCXXV, James Almer a écrit :
>>>> No Nicolas. It's a reminder that this patch, as discussed and announced, will
>>>> be pushed.
>>>
>>> And the Corleone give you reminders that they will break your legs.
>>>
>>>> I don't care about ffserver.
>>>
>>> Then do not discuss ffserver.
>>
>> I discuss project management. This is a late attempt at overriding a decision
>> from parties that didn't participate in the real decision making discussions.
>>
> 
>> This crap wouldn't fly anywhere else, but somehow, and according to you, it's
>> rational on ffmpeg.
> 
> Why is it a problem that after announcing the removial of a feature
> we announce that the removial could be avoided as someone came forth
> and updated the code making the removial unneeded ?
> It should not be a unexpected course of events in a project driven by
> volunteers that a volunteer does some work that previously was
> believed noone would do

Any work making ffserver not depend on private API and ffm* will take a long
while. It's unrealistic to think it will be ready even in time for 3.3 or the
major bump.

As i said, once that work is done from within a separate repo after ffserver
has been removed from the main repository as announced, I'm ok if a patch
reintroducing it is sent to this list. We can then discuss if it's something
we want to have in the tree again, knowing well history as shown interest on
it has been minimal and development sparse.

> 
> (but before any more announcing really we should check and double check
>  that all issues that need fixing were fixed and i really want everyone
>  agreeing and being happy and ATM everyone seems in bloodrage berseker
>  mode, while that gives us a interresting suggestion for the next
>  release name, it doesnt make me happy at all to see everyone fight
>  and be angry)

Neither to me. But how this was handled, how the agreed efforts towards
a graceful removal of ffserver for the benefit of anyone that still wants
to use it with up to date git master were used, rubbed me the wrong way.

I don't care about ffserver, but i do care about the image of the project,
and when people abuse trust.