[FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] news: add a news entry for the AAC encoder experimental flag removal
atomnuker at gmail.com
Sat Dec 5 21:27:54 CET 2015
Sorry, sent out this email to Ganesh only at first. Posting it to the ML
>Consider adding a link to such tests/how to verify this.
Subjective tests. I did try to compare them using an SSIM audio filter
(based on a journal paper) I wrote for lavfi a few months ago but I gave
up. Spoke with the Opus guys who outright told me that it makes no sense to
use SSIM and that basically all of the tests done while developing Opus
were subjective. So I never got the filter merged because it would have
been a pointless statistic.
>what you are comparing to.
Speaking in general and for libfdk_aac in specific. I am not going to
mention its name in the blog post.
>Maybe even a pic with performance/quality
I don't see pictures in any news and I wouldn't want to break that
Encoding performance is twice as slow compared to libfdk_aac. Which is
still 12x realtime on my poor Celeron B820. In the grand scheme of things
this is insignificant.
>In short, please add some more detail at your discretion.
As I said earlier, this is not something I or anyone else can show nor
prove to be valid in general for all people for all audio files. There is
just a general agreement among the encoder developers that yes, for some
samples the encoder sounds better at 128kbps and yes, for some samples it
sounds worse. But the prevalent idea is that the encoder is transparent for
most files encoded at 128kbps, which is the de-facto standard CBR bitrate
But don't take my word for it. Test it yourself.
>Did not know feedback also goes on the bug tracker. I don't really
>know, maybe "feedback via IRC/ffmpeg-devel/private email" (pick
>whatever subset you want)?
There's a large trac ticket with over 450 replies. That's where the main
source of external feedback comes from. Mainly from Kamedo2 whom I credited.
>Consider refining the Changelog entry from "- extensive native AAC
>encoder improvements" to "extensive native AAC encoder improvements
>and removal of its experimental flag".
Did that slightly before I sent the mail.
>Anyway, great work, thanks!
On 5 December 2015 at 19:29, Ganesh Ajjanagadde <gajjanag at mit.edu> wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Rostislav Pehlivanov
> <atomnuker at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Signed-off-by: Rostislav Pehlivanov <atomnuker at gmail.com>
> > ---
> > src/index | 21 +++++++++++++++++++++
> > 1 file changed, 21 insertions(+)
> > diff --git a/src/index b/src/index
> > index d1d4a58..0c54046 100644
> > --- a/src/index
> > +++ b/src/index
> > @@ -37,6 +37,27 @@
> > News
> > </h1>
> > + <a id="aac_encoder"></a><h3>The native FFmpeg encoder is out of
> > + <p>
> > + After seven years the native FFmpeg AAC encoder has had its
> experimental flag
> > + removed and declared as ready for use. Subjective quality tests put
> > + encoder to be of equal or greater quality than most of the other
> > + available to the public.
> Consider adding a link to such tests/how to verify this. Also list
> what you are comparing to. Maybe even a pic with performance/quality
> In short, please add some more detail at your discretion.
> > + </p>
> > + Licensing has always been an issue with encoding AAC audio as most
> of the
> > + encoders have had a license making FFmpeg indistributable if
> compiled with
> > + support for them. The fact that there now exists a fully open and
> > + free AAC encoder integrated directly within the project means a lot
> to those
> > + who wish to use accepted and widespread standards.
> > + </p>
> > + The majority of the work done to bring the encoder up to quality was
> > + done by Claudio Freire and Rostislav Pehlivanov. Also thanks to
> > + <a href="http://d.hatena.ne.jp/kamedo2/">Kamedo2</a> who does
> > + and tests, the original authors and all past and current
> contributors to the
> > + encoder. Users are suggested and encouraged to use the encoder and
> > + feedback or breakage reports through our <a href="
> https://trac.ffmpeg.org/">bug tracker</a>.
> Did not know feedback also goes on the bug tracker. I don't really
> know, maybe "feedback via IRC/ffmpeg-devel/private email" (pick
> whatever subset you want)?
> Consider refining the Changelog entry from "- extensive native AAC
> encoder improvements" to "extensive native AAC encoder improvements
> and removal of its experimental flag".
> Anyway, great work, thanks!
> > + </p>
> > +
> > <a id="thanks_sponsor_0001"></a><h3>Telepoint & MediaHub are now
> supporting our project</h3>
> > <p>
> > A big thank you note goes to our newest supporters: MediaHub and
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