[FFmpeg-devel] IRC meeting on Saturday 2015-09-12, UTC 15:00
Ronald S. Bultje
rsbultje at gmail.com
Thu Sep 10 20:58:51 CEST 2015
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Michael Niedermayer <michaelni at gmx.at>
> On Mon, Sep 07, 2015 at 11:37:47AM +0200, Stefano Sabatini wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I propose to have an official IRC meeting on the next Saturday, and I
> > propose the tentative time of 15:00 UTC, but feel free to propose a
> > different time if this can't suit you.
> > The IRC meeting channel will be public and the log will be published
> > at the end of the meeting.
> > This meeting is also meant as a preparation for the real-life meeting
> > that will be held in Paris at the next VDD
> > (http://www.videolan.org/videolan/events/vdd15/) for the FFmpeg
> > developers who will attend it.
> > I propose these topics of the day (suggested by ubitux on IRC):
> > 1. ABI compatibility policy
> > 2. general policy decision process
> heres a suggestion, maybe useful as input for discussions on
> Saturday ...
> FFmpeg used and uses "unanimous consent" in patch reviews
> any person could make a suggestion
> to improve a patch and it has to be taken care of one way or another
> before the patch is ok. This system worked quite well almost all the
> time. So i would suggest to use the same / a similar system for
> policy decisions
> * Everyone should be able to comment and propose options/choices
> * There should be enough time to understand, discuss and amend
> * People should try to understand the other people and avoid strawman
> arguments and other non constructive discussion tactics, people/the
> commuity should step in if discussions become non constructive and
> hostile and try to get people back toward constructive discussion.
> * People should be able to declare reservations to a proposal without
> blocking the proposal and as a seperate choice veto it in a blocking
> fashion. A veto should be public with full name of the developer,
> reason why it is bad for the community/project and ideally a
> alternative proposal. Also developers vetoing a proposal must be
> willing and able to work on finding an better solution.
I have serious reservations about giving each developer veto rights; imho,
we need a much higher bar than that. As evidence, I would like to offer the
example of the united nations security council having only 5 members with
veto power, and that's working out really well, right? </sarcasm> So in
light of that, if we decide to go this route, I would humbly suggest to
make sure our number of developers with veto power is significantly smaller
than five. "Use it wisely" won't work, power corrupts. Let's fix it by
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