[FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] avformat/hlsenc: fall back to av_get_random_seed() when generating AES128 key
Marton Balint
cus at passwd.hu
Tue Jul 4 22:30:29 EEST 2023
On Tue, 4 Jul 2023, James Almer wrote:
> On 7/3/2023 6:52 PM, Marton Balint wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 3 Jul 2023, Anton Khirnov wrote:
>>
>>> Quoting Marton Balint (2023-07-03 22:54:41)
>>>> On Mon, 3 Jul 2023, Anton Khirnov wrote:
>>>> My patch use av_get_random_seed() which uses what the underlying OS
>>>> provides, BCrypt for Windows, /dev/urandom for Linux, arc4random() for
>>>> BSD/Mac.
>>>
>>> IOW it's a jungle of various paths, some of which are not guaranteed to
>>> be cryptographically secure. I see no such guarantees for arc4random()
>>
>> It depends on OS and version most likely.
>>
>>> from a brief web search, and the fallback get_generic_seed() certainly
>>> is not either.
>>> Granted it's only used on obscure architectures, but
>>> still.
>>
>> I am no expert on the subject, but even the generic code seems reasonably
>> secure. It gathers entropy, it uses a crypto hash to get the output. And
>> as you said, even that only used for obscure cases.
>>
>>>
>>> The doxy even says
>>>> This function tries to provide a good seed at a best effort bases.
>>>
>>>> You really think that these are significantly worse than
>>>> OpenSSL/GCrypt, so it should not be allowed to fallback to?
>>>
>>> I think we should be using cryptographically secure PRNG for generating
>>> encryption keys, or fail when they are not available. If you want to get
>>> rid of the openssl dependency, IMO the best solution is a new
>>> int av_random(uint8_t* buf, size_t len);
>>> that guarantees either cryptographically secure randomness or an error.
>>
>> Sorry, seems a bit overdesign for me, so I won't be pursuing this further.
>
> I just sent a patchset implementing a new av_random() function that uses the
> existing av_get_random_seed() entropy sources, and adds the ones used by
> hlsenc too.
> If that goes in, then this patchset can go in as well afterwards.
Thanks! I will rework the patch to use av_random() then.
Regards,
Marton
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