[FFmpeg-devel] I've written a filter in Rust

[Kieran Kunhya]

On Fri, 21 Feb 2025, 15:02 Soft Works, <softworkz at hotmail.com> wrote:

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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ffmpeg-devel <ffmpeg-devel-bounces at ffmpeg.org> On Behalf Of
> > Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel
> > Sent: Freitag, 21. Februar 2025 15:53
> > To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-
> > devel at ffmpeg.org>
> > Cc: Kieran Kunhya <kieran618 at googlemail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] I've written a filter in Rust
> >
> > On Fri, 21 Feb 2025, 14:30 Soft Works, <softworkz-at-
> > hotmail.com at ffmpeg.org>
> > wrote:
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> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: ffmpeg-devel <ffmpeg-devel-bounces at ffmpeg.org> On Behalf Of
> > > > Michael Niedermayer
> > > > Sent: Freitag, 21. Februar 2025 14:22
> > > > To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-
> > > > devel at ffmpeg.org>
> > > > Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] I've written a filter in Rust
> > > >
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Feb 21, 2025 at 10:01:56AM +0100, Tomas Härdin wrote:
> > > > > tor 2025-02-20 klockan 23:49 +0100 skrev Michael Niedermayer:
> > > > > > Hi
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 02:06:47PM +0100, Leandro Santiago wrote:
> > > > > > > [insert meme here]
> > > > > > [...]
> > > > > > > I also recorded a video showing the filter in action [7].
> > > > > > [...
> > > > > > > [7] https://youtu.be/U_y4-NnaINg
> > > > > >
> > > > > > cool, it doesnt detect everyone though
> > > > > >
> > > > > > also i think this shows how useful a plugin framework would be
> for
> > > > > > ffmpeg
> > > > > >
> > > > > > with plugins everyone could use,test and contribute to this
> today.
> > > > > > without plugins, this needs to be merged in ffmpeg git master.
> (which
> > > > > > will take some time i suspect)
> > > > >
> > > > > Have we not gone over and rejected plugins many times? I recall
> points
> > > >
> > > > no
> > > > there was no formal and no public informal vote that i remember.
> > > >
> > > > ive raised the issue with plugins many times. Because it would
> > > > allow people and myself to contribute more complex features and
> > > > end the stagnation of FFmpeg.
> > >
> > > Yup, that's exactly one of the reasons why other projects like
> GStreamer
> > > have gained that much popularity. It might not have happened when
> > > ffmpeg would have been more open and extensible in the first place.
> > >
> >
> > It's quite the opposite. Gstreamer is successful in its vertical because
> it
> > allows easy inclusion of vendor binary blobs. This is not "open and
> > extensible".
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> Open means it's extensible for everybody, including vendors. I fail to see
> what's bad about it. Do we have a fight against everything commercial?
>
> What are you afraid of to happen?
>
> Just wanna understand the position, thanks.
> sw
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What will happen is all the binary blob vendors who have to currently ship
a custom ffmpeg and tell their users to compile from source can just ship
their blob as a plugin.

FFmpeg will get all the bug reports from crashes (this is why the kernel
had to add the "tainted") flag.

I have a deep dislike for binary blobs.

Thinking the avisynth filter development of the 2000s will reappear when
ffmpeg gets plugins is wishful to say the least.

Kieran

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