[FFmpeg-user] Does "cat" degrade video quality?

MyCraigs List mycraigsl at ymail.com
Fri Dec 2 21:17:15 EET 2022

Thanks for the reply.  They are family videos some of which were made with a (I think) "tape eating" Panasonic and then later a Sony mini-DV tape video camera(s).  Now I use a Sony video camera that records in MTS to an sd chip.  I think the tape cameras produced AVI files (I think...but am not sure).  I still have the tapes but can't/won't transfer them from the camera for fear of destroying them (tape eater camera....both).  

The VOB files are from DVD's I made from the tape cameras.  It's the best I've got without the aforementioned problems.  I don't expect much super quality out of them but they're good enough.  Would it be smart of convert them to a format such at mp4 and H.264....for preservation of a common standard?
As to the MTS files- the quality is excellent.  Cat does a great job and I'm amazed how a clod such as myself got perfect results.  But....but....perhaps it also would be smart to convert them to mp4 H.264?  

I'm pretty old and want our kids to be able to watch these videos in the future when I probably will have broken the social security system.
Thanks....will look link below.
Thank you, again...

    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 10:45:30 AM EST, Dan Harkless <ffmpeg at harkless.org> wrote:  
 On 12/2/2022 4:36 AM, MyCraigs List via ffmpeg-user wrote:
> I'm running Debian 11.
> I use the command line "cat" to concatenate videos of all the same quality together.  All VOB files are cat'd together and none others.  The second bunch of videos I cat together are from a Sony video camera and are "MTS" files.  That's to say I do not cat VOB and MTS files together.
> The command I use for VOB is (at command line) $ cat File_1.VOB  File_2.VOB> New_File_1.VOBThe command I use for MTS is (at command line) $ cat File_1.MTS File_2.MTS> New_File_2.MTS
> Not wanting to lose any video or audio quality, does "cat" files degrade their quality?  If it does can you recommend a code line that'll preserve the quality?
> VOB file example;
> Input #0, mpeg, from 'VTS_06_1.VOB':
>    Duration: 00:00:32.53, start: 0.213367, bitrate: 6688 kb/s
>      Stream #0:0[0x1bf]: Data: dvd_nav_packet
>      Stream #0:1[0x1e0]: Video: mpeg2video (Main), yuv420p(tv, bottom first), 720x480 [SAR 8:9 DAR 4:3], 5000 kb/s, 29.97 fps, 29.97 tbr, 90k tbn, 59.94 tbc
>      Side data:
>        cpb: bitrate max/min/avg: 5000000/0/0 buffer size: 1835008 vbv_delay: N/A
>      Stream #0:2[0xa0]: Audio: pcm_dvd, 48000 Hz, stereo, s16, 1536 kb/s
> MTS file example;
> Input #0, mpegts, from '00105.MTS':
>    Duration: 00:00:49.06, start: 1.033367, bitrate: 22411 kb/s
>    Program 1
>      Stream #0:0[0x1011]: Video: h264 (High) (HDMV / 0x564D4448), yuv420p(top first), 1920x1080 [SAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], 29.97 fps, 59.94 tbr, 90k tbn, 59.94 tbc
>      Stream #0:1[0x1100]: Audio: ac3 (AC-3 / 0x332D4341), 48000 Hz, stereo, fltp, 256 kb/s
>      Stream #0:2[0x1200]: Subtitle: hdmv_pgs_subtitle ([144][0][0][0] / 0x0090), 1920x1080
I've never dug into the technicalities of VOB files (nor MTS).  The most 
I've done with them aside from extracting them into more conventional 
video containers with DVD-ripping software such as MakeMKV is to play 
them with VLC Media Player.

'cat' just does a straight binary concatenation of files, without 
touching their contents (assuming you don't give it any commandline 
options), so no, there's no quality degradation. However, I'm unaware if 
VOB or MTS files have headers that need to be preserved and that need to 
match things like the time duration of the file.

Have you tried watching / listening to the concatenated files with a 
player (e.g. VLC)?  Do they look and sound OK when you cross the time 
index of the concatenation point?  If so, I think you're probably fine 
(though depending on what your intended use is, you might run into 
trouble in the future due to
the files not being standards-compliant thanks to header issues).

If you have problems, you could try concatenating them with ffmpeg 
instead, à la the examples here:


Dan Harkless

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