[Ffmpeg-devel] [PATCH] mjpeg cleanup and again interlaced fix

Michael Niedermayer michaelni
Sat Apr 14 13:39:22 CEST 2007


Hi

On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 12:22:17PM +0200, Diego Biurrun wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 11:57:22AM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > 
> > On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 03:31:15AM +0200, Baptiste Coudurier wrote:
> > > 
> > > Honestly problem is that you too oftenly do that, and people is not
> > > caring at all, look at how many people answer or discuss about sensitive
> > > topics, so people might think but not say because they don't want to
> > > fight/flame.
> > 
> > this is ffmpeg-dev people do flame if they disagree you must be blind if
> > you cant see that
> > if noone complains then noone disagrees thats pretty much the definition of
> > disgagree
> 
> You have things backwards.  That's the definition of not speaking up.
> Disagreement is when you have a different opinion.  It's a necessary but
> not sufficient prerequisite for speaking up.

iam not disagreeing here but we cannot count (dis)agreement from people who
stay silent
silent disagreement is indistingiushable from silent agreement, we base
our actions in ffmpeg-dev generally on the assumtation that silence equals
consent, that is no complaint means noone disagrees


> 
> Not everybody likes to flame, notice that some people here immediately
> pull out when flamage ensues and rather give in than fight.  It's a
> matter of considering the time and annoyance worth the result.

true, but this doesnt apply to maintainers, they cannot sidestep their duty
or at least i dont want to

just consider
someone sends a patch, i review it and ask a few questions and ask for some
changes, should i now ignore the author when he starts to complain about
my questions? i dont think this would do any good, it rather would make him
even more angry
a maintainer (or root) cannot just ignore requests and comments which he
consideres flames


> 
> For example, I *could* speak up again about where to put the AC3 parsing
> code or I could just let it be.  In the meantime there remains an
> unfixed bug in FFmpeg...

move it whereever you like (unless someone else complains) i wont, you have
my consent

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