[FFmpeg-devel] New project using ffmpeg

Diego Biurrun diego
Tue Dec 18 09:20:42 CET 2007


On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 01:12:57AM +0100, Diego Biurrun wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 01:34:25PM +0000, Cezary Falba wrote:
> >
> > On 18 Sep 2007, at 15:01, Diego Biurrun wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 02:49:56PM +0100, Cezary Falba wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 18 Sep 2007, at 14:43, Diego Biurrun wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 12:05:14PM +0100, Cezary Falba wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 18 Sep 2007, at 12:03, Diego Biurrun wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 05:27:28PM +0100, Cezary Falba wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi, could you please note that we've started new project using
> >>>>>>> ffmpeg? It's homepage is s2.wap.filmnight.com/trailers/software.html
> >>>>>>> but it will soon change to saffrondigital.com.
> >>>>>>> It's a free download application that prepares video source from our
> >>>>>>> customers to be used by our system internally.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Let us know when you have found a permanent URL for it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Also, where is the source?  Where is the credit?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The source code is available on request to everyone who needs it. 
> >>>>> Credits are displayed during instalation process...
> >>>>
> >>>> I just downloaded and installed the Mac OS X version of Saffron Master
> >>>> Encoder.  No credits were displayed anywhere.  Nowhere is the word
> >>>> FFmpeg or x264 mentioned.  There is no copy of the GPL.  You do not
> >>>> provide source code nor describe where to get it.
> >>>>
> >>>> In other words, you are violating the license in every way imaginable.
> >>>>
> >>>> Why?
> >>>
> >>> Please forgive me that - it's my first software release. I'll add copy of
> >>> GPL as well as proper information in Readme File that is going to be
> >>> displayed during installation. I will let you know when it's done (surely
> >>> by the end of this week).
> >>
> >> Let us know when you have done this.  Also, if you haven't already, you
> >> should really read the GPL.
> >
> > I'm sorry for a long delay with solving those issues. Could you please 
> > revise that software's site and give me your comments?
> 
> First off, you mention FFmpeg (misspelled on your site), AviSynth and
> Perl, but you don't link to them.  This is the internet, place a link!
> 
> > I'm just not sure if there is enough information about the way we use 
> > ffmpeg.
> 
> The information you provide is OK I would say, but please do not
> misspell FFmpeg (notice the two capital F) and use ffmpeg.org as the
> homepage link.
> 
> > I'd like to be 100% sure everything is clear and ok with ffmpeg team before 
> > we include that page on company's website and allow other people to use it.
> 
> I just installed the Mac version of Saffron Encoder again but you made
> no changes at all!  Everything I criticized above is still valid and
> none of the things you promise above have been implemented.
> 
> What's it gonna be?

Also, you claim that your software is available under the GPL, but when
I download the source code, there is no sign of the GPL anywhere and all
files are marked as copyrighted by you or Saffron Digital or lack any
copyright or license information.  This makes them effectively non-free.

Also, there is the following statement on your website:

  By downloading our software you accept the GPL licence which can be
  found here.

This makes me think that you still haven't read the GPL, since it
contains a paragraph about the need to accept the license that this
conflicts with.

Releasing your software under a license you have not read is tantamount
to buying a house/car/whatever without reading the contract.  I'll
contact you in private with some excellent Brooklyn bridges that I have
for sale at premium conditions...

best regards

Diego




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