Thu May 24 18:48:02 CEST 2007
On 24 May 2007, at 17:28, Reimar D?ffinger wrote:
> On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 04:17:35PM +0200, Panagiotis Issaris wrote:
>> Reimar Doeffinger wrote:
>>> On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 09:16:56AM -0400, Justin wrote:
>>>> Can someone
>>>> recommend a service that administrates this, or do I just go and
>>>> a Paypal 'tip jar' and administrate it myself?
>>> Maybe I am in a minority but for me the problem with such things is
>>> that I refuse to use Paypal
>> Probably the wrong question to ask, but why?
> 1) I do distrust them (and not only not trust), without any special
> 2) Nobody I know around here uses it.
> 3) I do not think passwords are appropriate protection for any kind of
> bank account.
> 4) It is a heavy target for all kinds of spammers etc.
> 5) I belongs to ebay, which recently changed its terms of service and
> thinks that change is valid just because it sent the new terms once
> email. A strong indication that the law being on my side will not help
> me at all unless I am ready to sue. This fits with calling their terms
> of use a contract and using formulations "make an effort" that are
> worthless and probably invalid under German law.
> 6) I am used to money transfers not costing anything while having
> I can speak to personally in case of problems and where threatening to
> move my money elsewhere will do more than just cause a shrug.
> 7) It is not easily possible to find the person the money went to
> when it
> disappears, not even with involving police.
> 8) All data is stored in the US, which means full access (and probably
> already established automatic processing) of transaction data. Not
> I trust the government here any more, but I do not like having to
> 9) They are acting under British law which I know even less than the
> German one.
From experience, their transaction commission which should buy you
some form of insurance on any transactions you make is completely
worthless. They are very passive in following up any claims. I would
also advise against Paypal but I'm wary of direct bank transfers for
things too as I have lost money this way in the past. Some holding
body that is trustworthy and active in dealing with issues would
probably be appreciated, but if there are not enough bounties and
donations, is it worth it?
>>> and all existing solutions (like e.g. sourceforge)
>>> offer that as the only option...
>> Why would sourceforge's offerings matter?
> It was just an example...
>> Here's a list of alternatives to PayPal:
> Most seem to be US only, with some having web pages that cause me to
> run away scared...
:) Which country's law do we choose to be acceptable for handling
people's money? My knowledge of law is not significant, only that the
US has millions of laws because people sue for stupid reasons like "I
put my cat in the microwave to dry it out and it died. There was no
warning telling me not to do so. I want compensation." compared to
most other countries which rely on common sense a bit more. So I
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