[FFmpeg-devel] [VOTE] drop support for using libav* compiled with mingw/cygwin in msvc
Wed Feb 27 13:35:18 CET 2008
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 12:45:19PM +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:28:48AM +0100, Diego Biurrun wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 01:27:42AM +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 11:29:15PM +0000, M?ns Rullg?rd wrote:
> > > > Diego Biurrun <diego at biurrun.de> writes:
> > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 01:59:45PM +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > > > >> [...]
> > > > >
> > > > > Can we please have a bit more discussion before resorting to votes the
> > > > > next time around?
> > >
> > > Yes, sorry. This is the kind of thing that happens without a formal voting
> > > procedure ...
> > No. You simply called for a vote without allowing for previous
> > discussion.
> A proper formal "voting procedure" would require some discussion period
> before people write proposed solutions about which people then can vote
> using some condorcet method ...
I very much fear even more formal procedures around here...
> > Note that the discussion brought force a workable
> > alternative solution.
> Yes, we voted, we discussed, mans commited something based on the discussion.
> Before the vote your and mans position was that you didnt care at all
> about MSVC breakage, the vote demonstrated that this is not what people
> want. In such the vote was usefull ...
All of this would have been possible without a vote. On the other hand
the vote almost cut off the better alternative that we have now.
> > Voting should be the very last resort, always.
> Especially if the result differs from what you wanted. ;)
> No IMHO voting is very usefull to find out what peoples positions are.
> The only reason not to vote is that one preferrs to not know what the
> majority wants.
No. Once there has been a vote it becomes hard to reach an alternative
> And please dont misunderstand me but i think you are more pissed about the
> result than the fact that there was a vote.
I'm not at all "pissed" about the result.
> Also speaking about votes with no proper discussion, the warning vote you
> started also had _zero_ discussion prior. People just added discussion while
> voting ...
We had been discussing this for years, on the ml, on IRC, wherever.
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