[FFmpeg-devel] [VOTE] please vote for our NGO name: new vote?

Stefano Sabatini stefano.sabatini-lala
Wed Dec 16 23:25:21 CET 2009

On date Wednesday 2009-12-16 20:40:50 +0100, Michael Niedermayer encoded:
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 02:59:25PM +0100, Stefano Sabatini wrote:
> > Also I'd like a more "fuzzy" vote system, when the points are not set
> > in base of preference order but explicitely assigned by the
> > voter.
> what you say is not a well defined request

I mean that there is A and B and I cannot decide which is better it
should be possible to assign the same number of point to each of them.

Also there could be C, which I like less but which is better than the
other ones, so I could assign the points like this:
A      -> 3
B      -> 3
C      -> 1
others -> 0

I'm not saying that we should re-start the vote just for this.

> > This would allow to address in a more fair way scenarios of the
> > type: "Well all these candidates are great, but I really can't say
> > which I prefer", or "all these candidates bloody suck, but these two
> > ones suck less".
> This is perfectly well supported by the preference system, heres the lists
> for the 2 examples:
> 1 gandhi
> 1 ghostbusters
> 1 pizza
> 2 further discussions
> and
> 1 further discussions
> 2 gandhi
> 2 ghostbusters
> 3 pizza
> the idea here (which debian uses too) is to have a default option which
> generally means further discussions.

Well this is not supported by the current voting system, where each
position has a corresponding assigned number of points.
> Things you prefer over further discussions are things that you "approve"
> Things you rate below further discussions are things that you "dont approve"
> if the majority prefers "further discussions" then thats what happens
> [and yes our software can handle it already, all the vote haters please
>  go and vote everything below "further discussions" if thats what you want]
> > 
> > Then if the most voted names have the same number of points, the
> > majority of the board members could have the final choice.
> > 
> > While the new vote procedure is decided, we could propose new names
> > (which have to be checked and match all the assigned criteria), then
> > have another week for voting.
> > 
> > This would delay the NGO setup by some more weeks, since this is being
> > discussed IIRC at least since this summer that shouldn't be an issue.
> > 
> > What's the other voters position?
> 1. If anyone wants to discuss voting systems, do it
> 2. If anyone wants to discuss other names, do it
> 3. If we have a majority in favor of extending to voting period we will
> 4. If we have a majority in favor of throwing the votes away and starting
>    from scratch fine we will
> 5. in absence of 3 || 4 i assume people prefer the "now" over thr work of
>    redoing it

Since I believe that re-design the voting system would be overkill, I
suggest to simply redefine the list of preferences, which should
contain an explicit mention of the official, short and domain name,
and add all the newly added preferences, and then start again the

This should at least address some of the Diego's objections and make
happy who made late proposals.

My suggestions:

* official-name: Free Multimedia Technology Foundation
  short-name   : freemediatech

* official-name: Foundation for Free Multimedia Technology 
  short-name   : FFMTech

* official-name: Foundation for Free Multimedia
  short-name   : ffmedia

* official-name: Open Multimedia Foundation
  short-name   : OMF

* official-name: Open Multimedia Technology Foundation
  short-name   : OMTF

* official-name: Foundation for Free Multimedia
  short-name   : FFM

* official-name: FFmpeg Foundation
  short-name   : FFF / FFFoundation ?

* official-name: Fast Forward Multimedia Foundation
  short-name   : FFMF ?

* official-name: Fast Forward Multimedia Technology Foundation
  short-name   : FFMTF / FFMediaTech / FFMTech ?

The domain-name should default to the lowcased shortname with the
".org" suffix, e.g. FFMTech -> ffmtech.org.

If there are not other devs which stand for this, I won't bikeshed
with this anymore, also I don't particularly dislike the most
favorited names and we can adjust the official name issue when the
winner is choosen.

(Note: I may not be responsive in the next few days).

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