[FFmpeg-user] Libav (Avconv) Imposition on Users who want FFmpeg

miro.rovis at croatiafidelis.hr miro.rovis at croatiafidelis.hr
Fri Aug 1 10:22:00 CEST 2014

On 2014-08-01 01:25, miro.rovis at croatiafidelis.hr wrote:
> On 2014-08-01 01:10, miro.rovis at croatiafidelis.hr wrote:
>> I hope this thread is still accepting replies.
>> I have written a text[...]
>> [...]I am planning to post it
>> on:
>> Debian Development
>> http://forums.debian.net/viewforum.php?f=19
>> right after successful sending of this mail.
> And it is there.
> Here it is, at the time of this writing:
> Defeat and Hope for GNU/Linux
> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=116472

The pointer message shows up on:


as well.

There, and not here on FFmpeg mailing list archives (
a fact to which I have no complaints against), it can be seen that I 
sent it

To: FFmpeg user questions
CC: vorlon, ijackson, dmo-discussion

However, in the Debian Forums, while no server... ehrm... fluctuations
happened, as last time on Gentoo Forums, pls. see:

in bottom:

Wow, what an amazing coincidence, the gentoo forums are down.

, it has been moved from the Debian Development section
into the Offtopic section,

where it currently is,

and which I feel as an affront.

For which reason, I am making just one public plea for it to be 
returned back
to the Debian Development section where I believe it belongs.

I understand that people who couldn't talk reason into the other 
members of the  Debian Technical Commitee and others in among the 
leadership who had been pushing the Debain Jessie that way very 
probably can do
little for returning my post where it belongs, into the Debian 

but please, Ian Jackson and Steve Langasek, can you help?

As well as you, Dasein, who I believe are Osamu Aoke, the man of the 
Reference tutorial, which I read parts of and really enjoyed, could you 
from your "Moved to Offtopic" decision as can currently be seen here:

Defeat and Hope for GNU/Linux

could you please, Osamu Aoke?


I believe I am making no mistake in my sending to all the mentioned 
(I'm also adding Jan O. Kechel from publictimestamp.org, pls. see 
below) along
with posting this text on the, currently Offtopic, but hopefully back 
to Debian
Development section, my new Debian Forums topic: "Defeat and Hope for

Another anti-censorship measure of mine that I deployed in my 
publishing of my
new Debian Forums topic: "Defeat and Hope for GNU/Linux" first post was 
use of
the, let's give the result to the public:


The file itself, which tallies with the one published on Debian Forums, 
without any HTML and typical forums' formatting, you can check at:


I will next only correct those typoes and replenish the text with the 
links, but apart from a pointer to the new, completed text that I will 
at the very top of the first post of my new Debian Forums topic: 
"Defeat and
Hope for GNU/Linux", I won't change that now old document.

I will be here for both deb-multimedia.org and FFmpeg mailing lists, as 
well as
others addressed in these texts, to review possible follow-ups, and 
reply, or,
as necessary, provide further information/opinion/other.

Miroslav Rovis
Zagreb, Croatia
publictimestamp.org/ptb/PTB-21263 sha256 2014-08-01 06:01:46

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